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  I am out of here

  by Aussie Oz in

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  this place has become far to jw ish for my liking.. free expression and rights to make reply are shut down by those who hold the key.. this forum is turning into an uber christian outreach program with those who take umbridge to them getting locked and deleted threads.

  it would perhaps not be so bad if the moderators actually communicated to people such as myself rather than cold cutting.

  they complain when we make a public outcry and tell us it belongs in a private message, yet cannot see 'the straw in their own eye' and do not use the private messages to communicate why they have done what they do.

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  To me, the original thread was simply about communication styles and whether or not they're effective at communicating our thoughts. It's something I think about because I want to be heard myself.

  I skip many posts after reading the first sentence or two because of the style. Either they're to religious or too vulgar but usually because they're not succinct.

  The only issue with the thread in question is that it singled out one particular person's style. I'd be interested in exploring that subject again but in a more general way.
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  Anyone from Canada? Thinking of emigrating there...

  by teel in

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  title almost says it all.

  i'm sure there are some canadians here, so please voice your oppinion - am i out of my mind to move there, or is it the best decision of my life?

  - of course the answer is somewhere in between, but feel free to be extreme if you want to .

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  paul from cleveland

  Canada is beautiful. I'd love to move to Tofino on Vancouver Island.
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  Capitalism or Communism

  by d in

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  which syestem do you think works better?

  capitalism or communism.

  i think none of them work.

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  paul from cleveland

  yeah, that too.
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  Capitalism or Communism

  by d in

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  which syestem do you think works better?

  capitalism or communism.

  i think none of them work.

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  paul from cleveland

  It's not a question of Capitalism vs Communism because both can exist together like it does in China.

  The question is: Which is better, Capitalism under a authoritarian govenment like China or Capitalism under a democratic government like the US?
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  What I've found here

  by paul from cleveland in

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  i originally came here to find proof that the witnesses don't have the truth.

  i was so afraid of being destroyed at armagedon.. i didn't really find the convincing proof i was looking for.. what i did find, however, is the love and total acceptance that i hadn't felt before.

  to me, that's more important..

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  paul from cleveland

  Wow Ynot! It's going to take me a little time to sift through that post. Thank you, as always, for your wealth of knowledge.

  Just one note: I want to say I don't always feel this way. I think I've convinced myself and then fears that I'm wrong rise somewhere from the deep recesses of my mind.
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  What I've found here

  by paul from cleveland in

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  i originally came here to find proof that the witnesses don't have the truth.

  i was so afraid of being destroyed at armagedon.. i didn't really find the convincing proof i was looking for.. what i did find, however, is the love and total acceptance that i hadn't felt before.

  to me, that's more important..

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  paul from cleveland

  Gayle, you're right. I don't want to go back. It felt like everyone there was just a shell of emptiness. Including me. We were all looking for love but none of us had it within ourselves to offer it to each other. How could we feel loved when our God was a relentless task master that was going to destroy most of mankind. All of us unless we stayed on the treadmill.

  I think it's as simple as Black Sheep stated: "You can get the man out of the cult, but can you get the cult out of the man?" It's just so ingrained.
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  AllTimeJeff?

  by poopsiecakes in

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  has anyone heard from jeff lately?

  i hope he's ok and that his mum is ok too, it's been a while since i've seen him post....

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  paul from cleveland

  Yes, I've been wondering that too. Where is he?
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  What I've found here

  by paul from cleveland in

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  i originally came here to find proof that the witnesses don't have the truth.

  i was so afraid of being destroyed at armagedon.. i didn't really find the convincing proof i was looking for.. what i did find, however, is the love and total acceptance that i hadn't felt before.

  to me, that's more important..

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  paul from cleveland

  I didn't mean there is no evidence that they are wrong. I just meant that, for me, I haven't read the "nail in the coffin" proof that I'm looking for. Yet.
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  What are the most piercing questions I can ask?

  by paul from cleveland in

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  my sister is getting baptized soon.

  she's still talking to me but i'm sure it won't be for much longer.

  i've already asked her the following questions:.

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  paul from cleveland

  It's too late now anyway. I received an email earlier today that read , in part, that she doesn't want to see anything "that could possibly show anything negative about the witnesses. I hope you understand." (emphasis her's)

  At first, I got upset and told her that I was just going to stop talking to her now because I couldn't stand waiting for the inevitable. Her requirement to cut me off because I'm disfellowshipped. But then, I changed my mind and sent her the text: "I'll talk to you. You know I can't stop loving you." After that she came to the gallery where I work and hugged me, told me she loved me and invited me to dinner.

  I hope she'll still talk to me even after she's baptized. Otherwise I'll just have one sister left.

  (sorry if I've offended anyone by posting part of her confidential email to me, I just felt that no one here knows her, and even if you know me, I have 4 sisters and it could have been any of them)
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  What are the most piercing questions I can ask?

  by paul from cleveland in

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  my sister is getting baptized soon.

  she's still talking to me but i'm sure it won't be for much longer.

  i've already asked her the following questions:.

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  paul from cleveland

  Paul!!!!! I'm so glad to see you back!

  I'm at work right now but I took a quick glance at this thread and saw your name. When I get home, I'm going to read your post in detail. I just want to thank you for coming back and letting me know your thoughts.